Bill Gates Warns of 20 ‘Tumultuous’ Years Before AI Brings Abundance

On The Verge's Decoder podcast, Bill Gates said AI will wipe out many white-collar jobs and robots will follow, with 20 years of disruption before abundance.

Microsoft cofounder Bill Gates says AI will eventually create “true abundance,” but warns the next 20 years could be “as tumultuous a period as there’s been in human history.” Gates made the comments on The Verge’s Decoder podcast with Nilay Patel, released Oct. 22, 2026, as he continues a months-long tour on the risks and promise of artificial intelligence.

Image: Bill Gates, right, with Paolo Gentiloni at the European Commission. Photo: Lukasz Kobus/European Commission, via Wikimedia Commons (CC BY 4.0).

Bill Gates on AI: 20 years of winners and losers

“My big concern is this 20-year transition period, where they’ll have winners and losers and a lot of disruption,” Gates said, as quoted by Business Insider. He told Patel he is “not a doomer,” but described AI as “the most profound technology, both in its ability to do good and the rate of change that society will go through.” The Verge’s headline captured another of his lines: he called AI potentially “the most dangerous weapon of all time.”

The interview follows an essay Gates published in late August titled “The turbulent AI era is here. The choices we make now are critical,” according to The Verge. Patel wrote that Gates thinks society needs to prepare for roughly two decades of AI disruption, a period he said could be painful enough to split society between people comfortable living near the technological frontier and those who reject it.

Which jobs Gates says are most at risk

Gates was specific about white-collar work. “As the AI achieves superhuman intelligence, the scarcity of white collar skills goes away,” he said. “Things like doing telesales or telesupport or helping in the accounting department, the ability of the AI to do that work radically cheaper, radically faster, and even more accurately means that that goes away.”

He said blue-collar jobs will follow through humanoid robots. “If we don’t choose to massively slow down or stop, then we will have robots that can build houses, grow food, do surgery,” Gates said, according to Business Insider. “And none of the things that human labor provides to the economy will be necessary for most goods and services.”

He was candid about how strange that will feel even for him. “When the AI says to me, ‘No, I’m better than you, you go play pickleball and I’ll get back to you, I’m gonna take care of this,’ I mean, it’s kind of humorous, but it’s not humorous,” he said.

Gates’ ideas for softening the shock

Gates repeated his long-held view that jobs give people purpose, income, a reason to show up and relationships with colleagues. “Jobs are an input to the economy and one that drives a lot of human welfare and a sense of purpose and income,” he told Patel.

To preserve some of that, he floated reserving certain activities for people, such as art, sports, cooking and childcare, “even though the AI could do those things better,” Business Insider reported. He also mentioned early retirement and caps on working hours as ways to keep more people employed, and imagined some communities choosing to “be like the Amish” and use AI only for certain tasks. Gates also said he does not see the level of action from academia, think tanks and policymakers that the moment requires, adding that “just being cheerleaders for this is not going to make sure that we shape it in a net positive direction.”

How other tech leaders see the AI transition

Gates is far from alone. Business Insider noted that Amazon founder Jeff Bezos and JPMorgan CEO Jamie Dimon have both proposed shorter workweeks as an alternative to AI-driven unemployment. Elon Musk has predicted a “bumpy” transition and proposed government checks for everyone. Anthropic CEO Dario Amodei has said AI could raise the quality of life for everyone but that the “short-term shock will be unprecedented in size.”

Others are less alarmed. OpenAI CEO Sam Altman said in May that AI had not eliminated as many white-collar jobs as he expected and that he no longer anticipates a “jobs apocalypse,” according to Business Insider, which also noted that national unemployment has not risen materially during the AI boom despite high-profile layoffs at companies such as Amazon and Meta.

What it means for Boston’s job market

For Greater Boston, with its concentration of software, finance and health care office jobs, the debate is not abstract. This week Cambridge software maker HubSpot announced cuts of nearly 660 jobs, as covered in our report on HubSpot layoffs and restructuring, and the latest state data is in our Massachusetts jobs report for September 2026. Local researchers are also studying AI risk; see our story on the Harvard Belfer Center’s AI risk “pre-mortem”.

Gates’ bottom line is that the outcome is “still within our control if we get engaged with it.” Whether governments and employers act on that over the next 20 years is the open question.

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